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Osi to the Ravens?
I could see the Ravens parting with a 2nd not a 1st. Honestly I don't see the need unless Kindle can't play. With Kindle, McAdoo, Upshaw, and Kruger I think they'll be fine.- on Mon May 07, 2012 1:24 am
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Draft Grades
BOverall I'm pleased with what we got outta the draft. We did our best in the first 3 rounds but reached a bit on developmental players the rest of the way.
David Wilson will add a whole new threat to our offense. Rueben Randle and Jayron Hosley should be key role players early. 4th round picks both will need time to develop. Our best value came outta the 5th round with Keith Rivers. McCants seems to have good potential but like Kuhn may have a tough time making the roster.
How it could have been better:
- With Ronnell Lewis still available in the 4th we could have moved up a few spots using a later pick and one of the 4's.
- Trading Osi and acquiring more picks. Getting something outta Osi would have been a lot better than getting nothing. Although its not to late to trade Osi I'd prefer an immediate return rather than waiting til next year. I'm still holding out hope that we can get rid of this drama for something in return. Its time to move on.
- on Wed May 02, 2012 2:16 pm
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Whats going to happen with Osi?
That rumor is false and just plain stupid. Miami is not going to trade their probowl LT.Now Realistically we may be able to trade Osi for some draft picks and/or possibly get a RT or LG outta the deal. Think guys who are recent disappointments like Jason Smith from the Rams, Eben Britton from Jacksonville, Brandon Albert from Kansas City are some examples of guys who might be available. Its tough to guess those kinds of trades but if I'm Reese I'd look to move Osi for a draft pick and a player like that.
- on Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:19 am
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Round 4 picks are in
I agree Todd. Even though it's tough to project I think because Mosely comes from a spread offense he would have a faster transition to guard anyway. Brewer better get his shit together or this is going to be a short stay for him. He didn't dress a game last year and we add 3 potential tackles this offseason.I think Diehl is our best option at RT with Petrus and Boothe competing at LG. Locklear would be the swing tackle.
Robinson is athletically gifted, his numbers are crazy. I have full confidence that he'll develop under mike pope but underachievers always scare me.
- on Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:54 pm
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Round 6 and 7 picks
McCants has potential to me, Kuhn sounds like he'll be lucky to make the roster.- on Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:48 am
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Giants UDFA signings
Definitely excited about Jersey Joe's chances of making the team as a RB/FB.Janzen Jackson has serious potential. I don't typically like Safety's who can't tackle but he can play both S and CB. Had he not had off the field issues he was a possible 4th round pick.
- on Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:46 am
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top UDFA available
I'd pick Brett Roy off that list in a heartbeat.- on Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:55 am
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Third pick for NYG
By Mike Garafolo/The Star-LedgerJerry Reese described Jayron Hosley as "athletically arrogant," a compliment to the way he plays aggressively and confidently on the field.
Yeah, well, that swagger extends off the field as well.
"Truthfully, I felt like the college game was getting a little too easy for me," Hosley, the Giants' third-round pick in this year's NFL Draft, said on a conference call with reporters this afternoon when asked why he left Virginia Tech a year early. "I wanted a challenge and it was more of a challenge in the NFL."
Hosley will get that challenge at the next level. At 5-10, 178 pounds, he's an undersized cornerback who will have to stay aggressive to cover NFL receivers - though not too aggressive because we know how the league discourages physical play from corners after 5 yards.
That doesn't mean you can't get after a receiver, as the Bengals' Adam Jones and others have proven. Reese compared Hosley to a young Jones.
"Pacman Jones is a tremendous player, minus the off-field stuff," Hosley said. "But he’s a tremendous player. When you watch him on film he’s very sound in his technique. He’s aggressive, a smaller guy like me. I kind of favor that. I think that’s a good comparison. I like to compare myself to Asante Samuel, Pacman, Brandon Flowers. But I think that’s a very good comparison."
Speaking of off-field stuff, Hosley dropped to the third round because he failed a drug test at the Scouting Combine.
"I definitely regret it. But it’s something that’s in the past and behind me," said Hosley, who did not provide specifics. "I’m working toward bettering myself and not letting something like this happen again ever. They trusted me and I’m thankful for that and I want to make this a worthy decision."
Of his drop, he said, "I knew there was going to be a fall. I didn’t know exactly where. I accepted, with the mistake I made, I accepted that. I was just looking forward to really anyone giving me a call and giving me a chance, an opportunity to be a part of their program. And I was very happy and excited with the New York Giants giving me that call."
Hosley had nine interceptions as a sophomore but only three as a junior. Tom Coughlin said part of the reason for the drop-off was teams' not throwing his way.
“That’s a very accurate answer," Hosley said. "In 2010, I was coming in and I had a lot to prove. Just a player out there,a young guy who was excited to be in college and out there making plays. I feel like in 2011 there was a little drop off, teams kind of shied away from me a little bit.
"I felt like I was productive more and growing up as a player and a person in 2011. I don’t feel like there was a big drop off in productivity but obviously in the interception category it wasn;t there as far as the success I had in 2010 but I feel like I got better overall in 2011.”
Asked if that's what he meant when he said college football was getting too easy for him, Hosley replied, “I feel like in the NFL you have to earn their respect. I’m going to be a guy coming in and I don’t have their respect yet. I have to go out there and earn it. It’s one of those things when you get to the NFL they’re not going to shy away from you, they’re going to come at you. You have to be ready for it and I’m up for the challenge.”
And the challenge of proving himself as a gunner and on kick coverage?
“Man, I'm coming from a special teams guru in Frank Beamer so it’s something that I love to do and it’s actually something I'm looking forward to doing," he said. "Just doing my part in the organization.”
- on Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:55 pm
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Round 4 picks are in

OVERVIEW
In just two short seasons, Mosley has not only transformed his body from 270 pounds to 318, he has also transformed his game, as he converted from tight end, to defensive end before arriving on Auburn’s campus in 2010. The junior college recruit then made a rapid progression to the offensive line for the Tigers, going on to start his final 24 games in an Auburn uniform.
A relatively unknown prospect coming out of Jefferson High School player, he earned All-Region honors during his sophomore campaign. Over the next two seasons, he also competed as a punter and linebacker. As a senior, he was an All-Region defensive choice, adding first-team Class A All-State honors as a tight end, as the Dragons compiled an 8-4 record, finishing second in the Georgia 8A ranks in 2007. He also lettered in basketball, earning All-Region accolades in that sport.
When major colleges failed to recruit Mosley, he spent time at Georgia Military Institute in 2008 before enrolling at Coffeyville Junior College. In 2009, he saw action as both a tight end and defensive end for the Red Ravens. He was an All-Jayhawk Community College Conference selection on offense, as he snared twelve passes for 219 yards (18.3 ypc) and two touchdowns, in addition to posting 59 knockdowns and ten touchdown-resulting blocks. On the defensive side, he recorded 35 tackles (23 solos) with 3.5 stops-for-loss, two fumble recoveries and a blocked kick.
Mosley joined Auburn University in 2010, as he was originally recruited as a tight end, but he bulked up over the summer, reporting to August camp at 300 pounds. The coaches felt that the best way to capitalize on his blocking skills was to shift him to the offensive line. He quickly adapted to life in the trenches, and after serving as Lee Ziemba’s back-up at left offensive tackle for the first three games, he replaced A.J. Greene in the lineup at right tackle.
The reason for the change was that Greene had given up five sacks in those three contests. In Moseley’s final eleven games as the starting right tackle, the front wall was charged with only eighteen more sacks. The team’s march to the national title saw the Tigers lead the Southeastern Conference and rank seventh in the nation with an average of 499.21 yards per game in total offense.
With the 2011 NFL Draft’s top pick, Cam Newton now suiting up for Carolina, the Tigers offense struggled for an identity in 2011. The offense finished 100th among the 120 major colleges, averaging just 337.85 yards per game. The culprit for that drop from the previous season was the Tigers’ inability to replace Newton in the lineup, as they averaged only 155.54 aerial yards per game (105th nationally).
Mosley was one of the few bright spots for the offensive unit, though. He produced 13 touchdown-resulting blocks with 99 knockdowns, leading the team in both categories. He also recorded tackles after interceptions by his opponents – one each in the Florida Atlantic and Arkansas contests. For his performance, the senior captured All-Southeastern Conference second-team honors.
- on Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:44 pm
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Round 4 picks are in

OVERVIEW
Robinson emerged as the Bearcats’ full-time starter in his senior year. Used mostly as a blocker, he managed to come up with several key touchdown receptions, along with hauling in a 72-yarder vs. Miami that was the longest pass play by Cincinnati in 2011.
The tight end has a tall frame with very good muscle definition, split high, long legs and arms, good bubble and thick thighs. He shows good aggression as a blocker, staying low in his pads with a wide base to work in combination with the tackles when playing in-line. The thing you see on film is that he is quick to locate and neutralize second level defenders.
Robinson uses his arms effectively to seal vs. the edge rush and has a quick kick slide to retreat. As proven by his 72-yard catch-&-run vs. Miami, he is a punishing runner after the catch that easily breaks low tackles and you need to wrap him securely in order to bring him down. He displays good field vision, spotting the coverage and recognizing the open lanes.
The senior shows good aggression and excellent concentration going for the ball in a crowd. He has valid hands and good extension to catch outside the frame, doing a nice job of shielding the ball from defenders and has pretty good leaping ability to compete for jump balls, as he knows how to use his long arms and timing to get to the ball at its high point. He also uses his hands with good force to defeat the jam and is slippery enough to get past the press and into his routes.
While not used often, Robinson is especially effective on stop, comeback, outs and shallow crossing patterns. He has very good field vision, as more that 65% of his pass receptions came from working back when the pocket was pressured. He possesses the lower body strength to power through arm tackles, along with nimble feet, using them well to sidestep low tackles.
Robinson plays at a low pad level, shifting his pads low enough to gain advantage and sustain in his drive blocks. He excels at executing the chip block, taking good angles when stalking second level defenders. He is also alert to stunts and blitzes, getting out in front to impact edge rushers.
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- on Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:42 pm
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Round 4 picks are in
TE Adrien Robinson and OT Brandon MoselyTwo developmental picks.
Robinson - I don't know much about him but Garafolo said we had him in for a visit and were in love with him. I hear hes a bit of an underachiever.
Robinson, 23, is extremely athletic at nearly 6-foot-5 and 264 pounds, running the 40-yard dash in 4.51 and 4.58 seconds at his campus Pro Day workout. He registered a 39 1/2 inch vertical leap, an 11-3 broad jump, an 11.59 in the 60-yard shuttle and a 7.11 three-cone drill.
Mosely - Hasn't played much OT. Played in a spread offense at Auburn. Hes a big guy though with long arms and moves pretty well for a big man.
- on Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:48 pm
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Players available for day three of the draft
I can't imagine Bobby Massie or Ronnel Lewis lasting much longer. A few other guys I likeAlameda Ta'Amu DT
Omar Bolden CB
David Molk C
Brett Roy DL
James Michael-Johnson LB
- on Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:14 am
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Third pick for NYG
I knew a nickle corner to cover the slot was high on our list because the slot gave us trouble all year last season thats why I mentioned Boykins alot. When I compared the tape of the two players I thought both were equal. The reason I never mentioned Hosley was 1) the failed drug test. I thought that would eliminate him right away and 2) When I watched Hosley's interviews he has a street attitude not really a Coughlin type of guy.What separated him from Boykins wasn't his punt return skills it was Hosley's 78" wingspan. Thats very good for a 5'10" player. A few other reasons, He's a ballhawk at corner, Hosley had 9 ints as a SOPHOMORE Including one from Andrew Luck. He breaks on the ball incredibly fast and uses his long arms to knock balls away from the receiver.
His major negatives that I noticed, he can't tackle for shit. And bigger receivers seem to bully him through their routes. He's a scrapper but he has to add weight.
I liked that he talks high about the tradition of the V-Tech corners. He mentions Brandon Flowers, Macho Harris, and DeAngelo Hall a lot.
You gotta be pleased with the pick though. This was 2nd round talent we got at the end of the 3rd. BPA combined with a position of need. A common theme for this draft. We are doing a VERY good job. Kudos to Reese, Ross, Coughlin and crew. Now get me Ronnel Lewis and Brett Roy on Defense and I won't bitch about another draft pick for the rest of my life.
- on Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:02 am
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At 63 NYG select...
I'm happy about the pick. I didn't think he would be there honestly. This is a big physical receiver who works well against press coverage. Another thing I noticed about Randle is that he does a very good job at giving the QB his numbers on slants and routes in the middle of the field. He also has plenty of practice time against the better corners to come out of college in recent years (Patrick Peterson, Mo Claiborne, and the Honeybadger). The camp battle between him and Barden should be very good. This also allows us to keep Cruz in the slot where he did most of his damage last year.Sure I wanted Ronnel Lewis but as we got closer to our pick and Randle was still on the board I thought we were going to jump up to get him. I was at work telling everyone Rueben Randle was going to be the pick. Way too good of a talent to pass up at that point in the draft. This dude is polished and ready for the pros now. Barden will have his hands full fending him off.
- on Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:25 am
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